Sep 23, 2021 Special Called Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER: 6:00 PM CALL TO ORDER: 6:00 PM]

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ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

I'M DAVID STOLLE, PLANO ISD BOARD PRESIDENT, NOTING THAT A QUORUM OF PLANO ISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS PRESENT, I CALL TO ORDER THIS JOINT MEETING OF THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES TRUSTEES AT 6:08 P.M..

IN THE HOUSE THAT JOHN BUILT.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE PLAQUE OUT FRONT ON THE BUILDING, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHY I SAID THAT. ON THE WELCOME BACK, MR. MAYOR, WE HAVE A LOT OF WE HAVE A LOT OF FLAGS, LOTS IN THE 90S.

YEAH, WELL ON THE BOARD'S BEHALF, I WISH TO WELCOME ALL VISITORS.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO WELCOME THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL AND SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT IMPORTANT TOPICS TO ALL OF US.

MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, I'M MAYOR JOHN MUNS, NOTING THAT A QUORUM OF PLANO COUNCIL IS PRESENT.

I'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS JOINT MEETING OF THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

I'D LIKE TO THANK THE PLANO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR HOSTING THIS MEETING AND LOOK FORWARD TO TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION.

ALL RIGHT, AS WE GET STARTED, LET ME INTRODUCE MY FELLOW TRUSTEES AND STAFF WITH US TODAY, WE HAVE VICE PRESIDENT NANCY HUMPHREY, SO IF YOU GUYS JUST GIVE A WAVE.

VICE PRESIDENT NANCY HUMPHREY, BOARD SECRETARY JERI CHAMBERS, TRUSTEE ANGELA POWELL.

TRUSTEE DR. LAUREN TYRA, DR.

TRUSTEE, DR. HEATHER WANG, TRUSTEE CODY WEAVER, WE HAVE SARA BONSER, SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS, DR. THERESA WILLIAMS, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER RANDY MCDOWELL BACK HERE, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

AND BART ROSEBORO, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SAFETY AND SECURITY, AND CHRISTY ROME.

WHERE'S CHRISTY? OH, RIGHT BEHIND ME.

EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR TEXAS SCHOOL COALITION, WHO'S JOINING US THIS EVENING TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION REGARDING SCHOOL FINANCE.

ALL RIGHT, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF SEATED WITH US TODAY. MAYOR PRO TEM KAYCI PRINCE WILL BE HERE SHORTLY.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MARIA TU.

RAISE YOUR HAND. COUNCIL MEMBER ANTHONY RICCIARDELLI, COUNCIL MEMBER RICK GRADY.

COUNCIL MEMBER SHELBY WILLIAMS. COUNCIL MEMBER JULIE HOLMER.

COUNCIL MEMBER RICK SMITH.

CITY MANAGER MARK ISRAELSON, CITY ATTORNEY PAIGE MIMS. DEPUTY CITY MANAGER JACK CARR.

DEPUTY CITY MANAGER SHELLI SIEMER AND DEPUTY CITY MANAGER GREG RUSHIN.

SO AT THIS TIME, I'D ASK SUPERINTENDENT BONSER TO VERIFY THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACTS REGARDING NOTICES FOR THIS MEETING.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT STOLLE.

I VERIFIED THAT THIS MEETING HAS BEEN POSTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

THANK YOU. SO NOW IS THE TIME IN THE MEETING WOULD WE WOULD HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE HAD NO PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

OK, WE HAD NONE.

MR. MAYOR, DID YOU ALL HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT REQUESTS? OK, VERY GOOD. WELL, THEN I'M GOING TO SKIP ALL OF THE LEGALESE ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO JUST A QUICK NOTE ON THIS MEETING.

THIS IS A MEETING OF THE JOINT MEETING, OBVIOUSLY OF THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, NOT PROBABLY AS ROUTINELY AS MAYBE WE'D LIKE. AND SO WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE GOING FORWARD.

BUT IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE CITY TO GET TOGETHER TO HEAR ISSUES THAT DIRECTLY AFFECT BOTH OF US.

AND SO OUR FIRST REPORT THIS EVENING IS GOING TO BE REGARDING LEGISLATIVE COLLABORATION

[3.1. Legislative Collaboration: School Finance and the Impact of Recapture on the Community Recapture on the Community]

IT'S MY PLEASURE THIS EVENING TO INTRODUCE CHRISTY ROME AS PRESIDENT, STOLLE SAID.

CHRISTY IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TEXAS SCHOOL COALITION, WHICH IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT REPRESENTS THE INTERESTS OF STUDENTS, SCHOOLS AND COMMUNITIES THAT SEEK TO BALANCE SUSTAINABLE STATE AND LOCAL INVESTMENTS IN SCHOOLS.

AS A GRADUATE OF STANFORD MSD, CHRISTY IS A PROUD PRODUCT OF THE TEXAS PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM. SHE IS A FORMER PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER, AND SHE'S ALSO WORKED FOR THE TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY, THE TEXAS SENATE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION, AND AS A DISTRICT ADMINISTRATOR WITH THE AUSTIN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.

CHRISTY EARNED BOTH HER BACHELOR'S AND MASTER'S DEGREES IN EDUCATION FROM BAYLOR UNIVERSITY. THE TEXAS SCHOOL COALITION, WHICH CHRISTY LEADS ADVOCATES FOR THE RESOURCES

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AND SO WE HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH CHRISTY AND THE TEXAS SCHOOL COALITION FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

SHE'S BEEN AROUND SINCE THE DAYS OF [INAUDIBLE] AND BEYOND, AND SHE IS A STRONG VOICE IN AUSTIN ON BEHALF OF PLANO ISD AND THE BEST INTEREST OF PUBLIC ED.

SO I'M PLEASED TO TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO CHRISTY ROME.

SHE'S GOING TO STAND. SHE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO STAND.

OK. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO BE IN PLANO AND AS SARA MENTIONED, I HAVE A LONG HISTORY WITH PLANO AND I FEEL LIKE I AM VERY PRIVILEGED TO REPRESENT PLANO AND AT MANY CAPACITIES.

AND I'M GLAD TO BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS TOPIC TONIGHT AND APPRECIATE NOT ONLY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S INTEREST IN THIS, BUT THE CITY'S INTEREST IN THIS AS WELL.

WE'RE ALL TAXPAYERS TOGETHER, SO THIS AFFECTS EVERYBODY, SO WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR FAVORITE TOPIC. I THINK THAT YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT A LOT BEFORE ROBIN HOOD RECAPTURE, AND I'M NOT GOING TO BORE YOU WITH A LOT OF DETAILS.

I THINK WE KNOW WHAT RECAPTURE IS, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

RECAPTURE CAME ABOUT BECAUSE OF A SERIES OF COURT CASES IN THE LATE 80S, EARLY 90S, AS WE WERE SEEKING TO EQUALIZE OUR FUNDING SYSTEM AND MAKE THE SYSTEM CONSTITUTIONAL.

THEY TRIED MANY THINGS LIKE A STATEWIDE PROPERTY TAX, AND THAT'S NOT CONSTITUTIONAL BECAUSE THAT'S VERY EXPLICITLY STATED IN THE CONSTITUTION THAT THAT'S PROHIBITED.

SO THIS IS WHERE WE LANDED AND IT'S BEEN DECLARED CONSTITUTIONAL SEVERAL TIMES NOW.

AND IT'S ALSO THE RECAPTURE HAS THE NICKNAME OF ROBIN HOOD BECAUSE IT TAKES FROM THE RICH. SOMEBODY TOLD ME I SHOULDN'T SAY HE STEALS FROM THE RICH BECAUSE IT IS LEGAL.

THIS ISN'T THE LAW, BUT IT DOES TAKE FROM THE RICH.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY GIVE TO THE POOR, THOUGH.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.

SO THE WAY THAT YOU CAN EQUALIZE A SYSTEM, IF YOU HAVE HIGHER WEALTH DISTRICTS WHO CAN ACHIEVE A LARGER AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR A LOWER TAX RATE, AND THEN YOU HAVE LOWER WEALTH DISTRICTS THAT CAN ACHIEVE LESS MONEY FOR A HIGHER TAX RATE.

IF YOU WANT TO EQUALIZE THE SYSTEM, YOU CAN DO THAT IN ONE OF TWO WAYS OR A COMBINATION OF BOTH. YOU CAN AND SORT OF CEILING, AND THAT'S RECAPTURE BRINGS OUR REVENUE DOWN.

OR YOU CAN RAISE THE FLOOR AND GIVE MORE STATE FUNDING TO THE LOWER WEALTH DISTRICTS TO BRING THAT FLOOR UP.

AND THEN THE TWO HOPEFULLY KIND OF MEET IN THE MIDDLE.

LIKE THIS AND OUR INCUMBENT, OUR SYSTEM DOES A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH OF THESE THINGS.

SOMETIMES WE RELY MORE HEAVILY ON ANOTHER.

SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR OUR SYSTEM AND HOW THIS WORKS, IF YOU THINK OF A GLASS OF WATER. AND THAT GLASS OF WATER IS OUR STATE ENTITLEMENT.

THERE ARE FORMULAS GIVE US, AND THAT GLASS OF WATER CAN VARY IN SIZE DEPENDING ON HOW MANY STUDENTS A DISTRICT MAY HAVE TO SERVE AND WHAT KINDS OF STUDENTS THAT DISTRICT HAS TO SERVE. IF YOU HAVE STUDENTS WITH NEEDS WHO ARE STUDENTS IN POVERTY, STUDENTS AND SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS WHO ARE LEARNING ENGLISH.

ALL OF THOSE STUDENTS CAN MAKE YOUR GLASS BIGGER.

ALSO, THERE ARE DISTINCT CHARACTERISTICS THAT CAN MAKE YOUR GLASS BIGGER.

THE SMALLER AND MIDSIZE DISTRICTS, FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE, THEY GET A LITTLE BIT BIGGER GLASS THAN WHAT THEIR STUDENTS ACCOUNT FOR BECAUSE OF THAT.

ALSO, DISTRICT TAX EFFORT CONTRIBUTES TO THE SIZE OF YOUR GLASS OR YOUR ENTITLEMENT.

SO IF A DISTRICT IS HAVING A LOWER TAX RATE AND MAKING LESS OF A TAX EFFORT, THEN YOU HAVE A SMALLER GLASS.

AND THAT'S GOING TO PLAY A ROLE A LITTLE BIT HERE IN HOW RECAPTURE WORKS.

SO YOU TAKE THAT GLASS, THAT'S WHAT DETERMINE THAT YOUR ENTITLEMENT IS, AND THEN YOU FIRST FILL THAT WITH WATER FROM YOUR LOCAL TAXES.

AND IF YOU'RE ABLE TO FILL THAT GLASS ON YOUR OWN LIKE PLANO IS, THEN YOU'RE JUST SELF-FUNDED. IF YOU CAN'T, THEN THE STATE MAKES UP THE REST AND THEY SUBSIDIZE THE REST WITH STATE FUNDING. LOCAL REVENUE IN EXCESS OF ENTITLEMENT IS THE TERM THAT'S NOW IN LAW FOR RECAPTURE AND THAT I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT, WELL, WE JUST HAVE ALL THIS EXCESS REVENUE, BUT LOCAL REVENUE IN EXCESS OF ENTITLEMENT IS THAT OVERAGE OR THE SPILLOVER WHEN YOU HAVE MORE WATER THAN FITS INTO YOUR GLASS.

THAT'S THE EXCESS, AND THAT'S WHERE RECAPTURE COMES INTO PLAY.

SO YOU CAN REDUCE YOUR RECAPTURE IN ONE OF TWO WAYS, YOU CAN INCREASE THE SIZE OF YOUR GLASS OR YOU CAN PUT LESS WATER IN SO YOU CAN INCREASE THE SIZE OF YOUR GLASS IF YOU HAVE MORE STUDENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, OR IF YOU HAVE STUDENTS WITH GREATER NEEDS THAT ALSO CAN HELP INCREASE YOUR GLASS.

IN SOME DISTRICTS, YOU CAN INCREASE YOUR TAX RATE, AND THAT INCREASES THE SIZE OF YOUR GLASS. YOU'RE KIND OF CLOSE TO NOT BEING ABLE TO DO MUCH ON THAT END RIGHT NOW, BUT INCREASING TAXES INCREASES THE SIZE OF YOUR GLASS.

THE WAY TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT YOU'RE PUTTING INSIDE YOUR GLASS IS SOMETHING

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IF YOU HAVE A REDUCTION IN YOUR TAXABLE VALUES AND THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR YOUR ECONOMY, SO THE BEST WAY TO HELP TO TRY TO REDUCE RECAPTURE IS TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF YOUR GLASS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PUT LESS WATER IN.

I WANT TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF COMMON MISPERCEPTIONS ABOUT ROBIN HOOD AND RECAPTURE, AND ONE OF THOSE IS THAT IF THE DISTRICT REDUCES ITS TAX RATE, IT REDUCES RECAPTURE AND AS WE TALK ABOUT BEFORE TAX EFFORT CONTRIBUTES TO THE SIZE OF YOUR GLASS.

SO IF YOU'RE REDUCING YOUR TAXES, THEN YOUR TAXPAYERS MIGHT BE PAYING LESS, BUT YOU COULD STILL BE PAYING THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF RECAPTURE AND JUST SIMPLY HAVE LESS TO SERVE YOUR STUDENTS WITH. SO THAT'S ONE THING WE WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR TONIGHT.

UH, PAYING LESS RECAPTURE MEANS THAT THE DISTRICT WOULD HAVE MORE MONEY WITH WHICH TO SERVE STUDENTS, AND THIS IS A COMMON MISUNDERSTANDING WHEN FOLKS SAY, WELL, IF WE COULD JUST KEEP MORE OF OUR LOCAL MONEY TO SERVE OUR OWN STUDENTS, THEN WE COULD MEET THEIR NEEDS BETTER. AND THAT'S TRUE.

BUT YOU CAN ALSO REDUCE RECAPTURE IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T GIVE YOU THAT EXTRA DOLLARS TO SERVE YOUR STUDENTS. WHEN YOU SEE TAX COMPRESSION AT THE STATE LEVEL LIKE WE'VE EXPERIENCED AND MAYBE EXPERIENCING AGAIN, THAT REDUCES RECAPTURE BECAUSE YOU'RE PAYING LESS IN TAXES, BUT THAT DOESN'T REDUCE RECAPTURE IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS YOU TO SPEND MORE DOLLARS MORE OF YOUR LOCAL TAXES ON YOUR LOCAL STUDENTS.

AND THERE'S ALSO THIS THINKING OUT THERE THAT, WELL, THE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE TO PAY RECAPTURE, THEY CAN AFFORD IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE STUDENTS WHO ARE ALREADY ADVANTAGED.

SO IT'S NOT A REALLY A BIG DEAL.

AND I WANT TO SUBMIT TO YOU THAT PERSONAL WEALTH AND PROPERTY WEALTH ARE VERY DIFFERENT THINGS. SO DISTRICTS CAN OFTEN HAVE PROPERTY WEALTH IN THEIR DISTRICT, BUT THE PERSONAL WEALTH OF THEIR STUDENTS AND FAMILIES THAT THEY'RE SEEKING TO SERVE.

THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS.

THOSE TWO THINGS ARE NOT THE SAME.

SO OUR SCHOOL FINANCE FORMULAS ARE SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS FOR THAT ADDRESS THAT THEY INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE GLASS IF YOU'RE SERVING STUDENTS WITH NEEDS AND IN POVERTY, BUT NOT COMPLETELY.

UNFORTUNATELY, OUR OUR FINANCE FORMULAS ARE IMPERFECT.

SO WE HAVE DISTRICTS LIKE PLANO AND OTHERS WHO ARE SENDING DOLLARS AWAY TO THE STATE WHEN THEY HAVE STUDENTS WITH GREAT NEED THAT THEY'RE ALSO TRYING TO SERVE.

THERE'S ALSO THIS THOUGHT THAT WE'LL RECAPTURED FUNDS BENEFIT SCHOOLS IN NEED WITH LOW WEALTH LEVELS AND SOME PEOPLE THIS MAKES THEM FEEL BETTER ABOUT PAYING RECAPTURE.

I'M OK PAYING MY FAIR SHARE BECAUSE IT'S HELPING OTHER DISTRICTS IN NEED AND THAT MIGHT MAKE ME FEEL BETTER TOO, IF THAT WERE THE CASE.

UNFORTUNATELY, RECAPTURE CONTRIBUTES TO A STATE SAVINGS AND THE SIZE OF THE GLASS THAT'S SET BY THE FORMULAS IN STATUTE DOESN'T CHANGE.

SO IF YOU'RE PAYING MORE RECAPTURE THAN YOU WERE BEFORE AND THOSE FORMULAS HAVE STAYED THE SAME, THOSE OTHER DISTRICTS ARE NOT RECEIVING MORE DOLLARS BECAUSE YOU'RE PAYING MORE IN TAXES. THEY'RE RECEIVING THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY AND THE STATE GETS TO BENEFIT FROM THAT INCREASED RECAPTURE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK, WELL, THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE ADDRESSED ALL OF THIS WHEN THEY PASSED HOUSE BILL 3 2019, RIGHT.

I READ THE NEWSPAPER HEADLINES.

THEY FIXED IT AND IF ONLY SORT OF NOT REALLY, THEY REDUCED RECAPTURE COMPARED TO HOW BAD IT WOULD HAVE BEEN. WE WERE ON A TRAJECTORY, SO THAT RECAPTURE WAS GOING TO BE SIX BILLION FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE THAT BAD.

HOWEVER, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE SHEER NUMBERS RECAPTURE ITSELF WAS NOT REDUCED COMPARED TO BILL THREE LEVELS.

WE SAW A SLIGHT DIP, WHICH YOU'LL SEE HERE IN JUST A MOMENT ON A GRAPH.

BUT WE'RE ALREADY BACK TO PRE HOUSE BILL THREE LEVELS.

SO IT'S A REDUCTION FROM WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN NOT NECESSARILY AN OUTRIGHT REDUCTION LIKE WE MIGHT HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN.

SO IF WE LOOK AT STATEWIDE RECAPTURE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, NINETEEN NINETY FOUR THROUGH WHAT'S PROJECTED TO BE PAID IN THIS CURRENT SCHOOL YEAR, YOU CAN SEE THAT STEADY CLIMB. AND THERE'S THE SLIGHT DIP THAT HAPPENED AFTER HOUSE BILL THREE PASSED IN 2019.

BUT THEN WE'RE POPPING BACK UP AGAIN ON AND RECAPTURES, CONTINUING TO CLIMB AGAIN, UNFORTUNATELY. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE STATEWIDE IN PLANO, YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT PATTERN NOW.

SO YOU MIGHT ASK HOW MUCH RECAPTURE HAS PLANO PAID IN TOTAL AND BY THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, WITH THE PROJECTED NUMBER IS TWO POINT FOUR BILLION DOLLARS IN TOTAL RECAPTURE OUT OF PLANO TO THE STATE.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE PATTERN IN PLANO IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE STATE.

AND HERE I'LL PUT THEM TOGETHER.

OF THAT, THAT GREEN LINE TELLS YOU WHAT THE WHAT THE STATES INTENT ON A DIFFERENT SCALE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE PATTERN IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

THINGS GOT BETTER IN PLANO FOR A WHILE.

AND THEN THEY TOOK A VERY STEEP TURN FOR THE WORSE.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS EXACTLY THIS.

WHAT I MENTIONED TO YOU EARLIER ABOUT HOW YOU CAN REDUCE RECAPTURE IS TO INCREASE THE

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YOU HAVE THE OPPOSITE EFFECT.

YOU'RE LOSING STUDENTS.

SO YOU'VE GOT ABOUT A FIVE PERCENT DECLINE IN STUDENTS AND YOU'RE ALSO GAINING AGAIN.

THESE ARE ON DIFFERENT SCALE, BUT I LAID THEM OVER EACH OTHER TO GIVE YOU THE ILLUSTRATION YOU'RE GAINING IN YOUR IN YOUR PROPERTY VALUES AND YOUR TAXABLE VALUES.

AND THAT COMBINATION HAS GIVEN YOU A VERY STEADY INCREASE IN RECAPTURING PLANO.

SO HOW CAN WE FIX IT, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT SOME POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS BECAUSE MY SLIDE HERE SAYS IF IT WAS EASY, IT WOULD ALREADY HAVE BEEN DONE, BUT WE'RE HERE TO DO SOME HARD THINGS.

SO PAST ATTEMPTS, WHAT'S BEEN TRIED IN THE PAST, SOME OF THESE HAVE HAD SOME SUCCESS, SOME OF THEM HAVE NOT.

IN 2003, THERE WAS A REMOVAL OF THEN CHAPTER FORTY ONE.

WE'RE NOW CHAPTER FORTY NINE IN THE EDUCATION CODE.

DID YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WHERE THE CHAPTER FORTY NINE ERS? SO THE REMOVAL OF THE CHAPTER FROM THE EDUCATION CODE WAS ATTEMPTED IN TWO THOUSAND AND THREE. BUT WHAT THEY SAID WAS WE'RE GOING TO ABOLISH RECAPTURE.

IN FACT, THEY SAID WE'RE GOING TO PUT A..

WE'RE GOING TO PUT A STAKE IN THE HEART OF ROBIN HOOD.

AND THEY DID.

HOWEVER, THEY FAILED TO PUT ANYTHING IN PLACE TO REPLACE IT.

SO THEREFORE, IT CONTINUED, WE'VE ALSO HAD TAX RATE COMPRESSION.

WE HAD SIGNIFICANT TAX RATE COMPRESSION IN 2006 BY FIFTY CENTS OF THE TAX RATE.

AND THEN WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF TAX COMPRESSION IN 2019.

THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE COMPRESSED OVER TIME.

AND WE MIGHT EVEN RIGHT NOW, THE LEGISLATURE IS TALKING ABOUT EVEN MORE TAX RATE COMPRESSION THAT COULD COME AND TAX YEAR '22.

SO THAT HELPS TO SOME DEGREE TAX RATE COMPRESSION.

IT'S SOMETIMES HARD TO NOTICE.

I BET TAXPAYERS HAVEN'T SENT ANYBODY THANK YOU NOTES, BUT BUT THAT DOES HELP SOME.

AND THEN TRANSPARENCY WAS ANOTHER EFFORT THAT WAS AN ATTEMPT THAT WAS MADE JUST IT WOULDN'T HAVE COST THE STATE ANYTHING, JUST SIMPLY WANTING TO GET INFORMATION IN THE HANDS OF TAXPAYERS.

BUT WHAT WE LEARNED THROUGH THAT PROCESS WAS LEGISLATORS REALLY DON'T WANT THAT INFORMATION IN THE HANDS OF TAXPAYERS.

SO HERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES THAT YOU HAVE ANY TIME YOU WANT TO TRY TO ADDRESS.

ROBIN HOOD RECAPTURE CHANGES ARE VERY EXPENSIVE.

RECAPTURE IS THREE BILLION A YEAR IN 2021 WERE PAID COLLECTIVELY FROM SCHOOL DISTRICTS STATEWIDE. THAT'S THREE BILLION IN ONE YEAR.

THAT'S MORE THAN TWICE WHAT THE STATE LOTTERY BRINGS IN TO THE STATE FOR REVENUE IN A YEAR. SO IF YOU WANT TO REPLACE RECAPTURE, YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BRING ANOTHER THREE BILLION INTO THE SYSTEM OR SOMETHING SIMILAR.

THOSE CHANGES TO RECAPTURE ARE EXPENSIVE, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S HARD TO MOVE THE NEEDLE.

SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TAX COMPRESSION TONIGHT THAT HELPS SOME, BUT IT DOESN'T HELP TO BE NOTICEABLE BECAUSE TYPICALLY VALUES CONTINUE TO RISE.

SO WHATEVER SMALL INCREMENTAL CHANGES YOU CAN MAKE ARE TYPICALLY GOBBLED UP BY INCREASES IN PROPERTY VALUES.

AND THOSE INCREASES ARE GREAT FOR THE ECONOMY, JUST NOT AS SO MUCH FOR THE TAXPAYERS AND HOW IT PLAYS OUT WITH RECAPTURE.

THE OTHER CHALLENGE IS THAT RECAPTURE DISTRICTS ARE IN THE MINORITY.

THERE ARE FAR LESS RECAPTURE DISTRICTS, AND THERE ARE DISTRICTS WHO DON'T HAVE TO PAY RECAPTURE WHO SOME PEOPLE CALL RECEIVERS.

I DON'T BECAUSE THEY DON'T REALLY NECESSARILY RECEIVE OUR DOLLARS.

BUT BUT THAT DOES MAKE IT MORE CHALLENGING IN THE LEGISLATURE TO GET THE ATTENTION AND THE WILL TO MAKE THESE CHANGES.

BECAUSE WE HAVE LESS FRIENDS, THERE'S LESS OF US.

SO THEREFORE WE HAVE LESS LEGISLATORS WHO REPRESENT RECAPTURE DISTRICTS WHO MIGHT BE WILLING TO WORK ON THIS ISSUE.

THERE'S ALSO THE APPROPRIATIONS SHELL GAME.

AND WE HAVE A BIENNIAL BUDGET CYCLE IN TEXAS, BECAUSE THANKFULLY, OUR LEGISLATORS TYPICALLY MEET ONLY EVERY TWO YEARS.

RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE MEETING ALL THE TIME, BUT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ONLY MEET EVERY OTHER YEAR. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO TRUE UP THE APPROPRIATIONS BILL.

WHEN YOU'RE ADOPTING A BUDGET THAT'S FOR TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, YOU GET THE ESTIMATES WRONG. SO THEY HAVE THE SUPPLEMENTAL BILL TO MAKE EVERYTHING RIGHT ONCE THEY HAVE ACTUAL NUMBERS AND THEY'VE BEEN PLAYING THIS FUN GAME RECENTLY SO THAT THEY HAVE.

FAR LESS RECAPTURE IN THE APPROPRIATE IN THE GENERAL APPROPRIATIONS ACT THAT THE LEGISLATURE PASSES A STATE BUDGET THAN WHAT ACTUALLY ENDS UP BEING, AND THAT BENEFITS THEM TO SOME IN TWO WAYS ONE.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S LESS RECAPTURE AND THAT'S GOOD FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY TAKE A LOT OF HEAT ON RECAPTURE. AND THEN SECONDLY, WHEN THEY HAVE THE TRUE UP THIS LAST TIME AROUND, THEY SAVED ONE POINT FOUR BILLION DOLLARS.

THEY WENT TO THE STATE BECAUSE OF INCREASED RECAPTURE ABOVE WHERE THEIR ESTIMATES WERE.

SO WHILE RECAPTURE DOLLARS MUST GO TO SCHOOLS IN GENERAL AGAIN, ALL WHAT THAT ALLOWS TO HAVE HAPPEN IS THAT THE STATE THEN HAS MORE OF THEIR OWN DOLLARS THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO

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AND THIS KIND OF HAPPENS IN THE DARK OF THE NIGHT BECAUSE NOBODY PAYS ATTENTION TO THE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS BILL.

I KNOW BECAUSE I WAS THERE AND TESTIFIED AND I AND I BROUGHT THIS TO THEIR ATTENTION AND SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A IS A FIVE POINT TWO BILLION DOLLAR REDUCTION IN TOTAL TO THE FOUNDATION SCHOOL PROGRAM AND ONE POINT FOUR BILLION OF THAT WAS INCREASED RECAPTURE.

SO I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE AS A POSSIBLE SOLUTION OF SHINING SOME LIGHT ONTO THAT SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS.

RECAPTURE DISTRICTS CAN BE FOUND IN EVERY REGION OF THE STATE YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MAP.

WE SHOULD HAVE MANY FRIENDS.

YOU CAN FIND A LOT OF RECAPTURE DISTRICTS IN WEST TEXAS AND THE OIL FIELD.

YOU CAN FIND RECAPTURE DISTRICTS ALL ALONG THE TEXAS COAST BECAUSE THERE'S HIGH PROPERTY VALUES THERE. AND THEN IN OUR URBAN AND SUBURBAN AREAS, THERE'S QUITE A FEW RECAPTURE DISTRICTS THAT CAN BE FOUND LIKE IN PLANO.

SO WE LOOK FOR POSSIBLE ALLIES WHO COULD WE JOIN AND OTHER CITIES AND DISTRICTS THAT MIGHT HAVE SIMILAR INTERESTS? I'VE GIVEN YOU THE TOP 10 DISTRICTS WHO ARE PAYING THE MOST RECAPTURE.

CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING NUMBER TWO.

IT'S BETTER THAN BEING NUMBER ONE.

SO THIS IS HOW MUCH RECAPTURE IS PAID ON AN ANNUAL BASIS IN THE TOP 10 DISTRICTS IN THE STATE, BUT THEN IT ALSO BROKEN IT DOWN AND GIVING YOU THE TOP 10 DISTRICTS ON THE PERCENT OF THEIR TOTAL COLLECTIONS.

SO SOME OF THESE DISTRICTS ARE MUCH SMALLER, THEY HAVE LESS STUDENTS TO SERVE, BUT ALMOST ALL OF THE PROPERTY TAXES THEY COLLECT ARE GOING TO THE STATE THROUGH RECAPTURE.

IT'S CERTAINLY A DIFFERENCE IN DISTRICTS, BUT I THINK THAT THE PAIN IS FELT ALL THE SAME AND AND ALL OF THESE FOLKS ARE ARE POSSIBLE ALLIES.

FOR THE POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS.

AND I HAVE THREE THINGS TO BRING TO YOU TONIGHT.

OF COURSE, THERE ARE MORE HAPPY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND DISCUSS THESE FURTHER, BUT THREE POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS THAT I'M BRINGING TO YOU TONIGHT.

THE FIRST OF WHICH IS THE COST OF EDUCATION INDEX.

A LONG TIME AGO, BACK IN THE 1989, THEY SET THE VALUES FOR THE COST OF EDUCATION INDEX, AND THEN THEY LEFT IT THAT WAY FOREVER MORE.

AND THEN IN IN 2019, THEY FINALLY SAID, WELL, THIS IS KIND OF RIDICULOUS BECAUSE THE COST OF EDUCATION AND THE COST OF LIVING HAS CHANGED A LOT SINCE THEN.

PLANO IS A VERY DIFFERENT PLACE NOW THAN IT WAS IN THE LATE EIGHTIES, EARLY NINETIES, SO THEY GOT RID OF IT COMPLETELY AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO? WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY OR THE POLITICAL WILL TO FIX IT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE GOING TO STUDY IT AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND FIX IT LATER.

THEY'RE REALLY GOOD ABOUT DOING THAT SOMETIMES.

SO THEY DID STUDY IT AND THEY GOT THIS BRILLIANT REPORT WRITTEN BY A, YOU KNOW, HIGHLY RESPECTED PROFESSOR AT THE BUSH SCHOOL AT TEXAS A&M ABOUT WHAT THIS COULD BE AND SEVERAL OPTIONS FOR IT. AND THEY DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WITH IT.

BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY TO YOU IS THAT IT COSTS MORE TO LIVE IN PLANO, TEXAS, THAN IT DOES AND A LOT OF OTHER PLACES ON THIS MAP.

SO BECAUSE OUR SCHOOL FINANCE FORMULA IS MAKE NO ADJUSTMENT FOR HOW MUCH MORE IT COSTS TO LIVE IN PLANO THAN IT DOES IN OTHER PLACES.

THAT'S ONE WAY THAT COULD TRULY INCREASE THE SIZE OF YOUR GLASS, THE SIZE OF YOUR ENTITLEMENT IF THIS WAS DONE CORRECTLY.

WE COULD ALSO STOP THE SHELL GAME AND WORK ON THAT SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS IF AT ONE POINT FOUR BILLION WAS THEN PUT BACK INTO OUR SCHOOL FINANCE FORMULAS, THAT COULD HELP TO MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE WITH OUR STUDENTS.

IT COULD ALSO HELP DISTRICTS TO BE TO THE POINT WHERE MAYBE THEY COULD START GIVING SOME PROPERTY TAX RELIEF FOR THE DISTRICT LEVEL.

SO JUST MAKE LET'S BE REAL WITH OUR NUMBERS.

I KNOW IT'S HARD TO MAKE ESTIMATES, BUT WHEN YOU SEE THIS TREND OF THEY'RE ALWAYS UNDERESTIMATING RECAPTURE, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE THERE AND SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CHANGED, POTENTIALLY HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO MAKE SURE THOSE FUNDS GO WHERE THE TAXPAYERS PAY FOR THOSE FUNDS TO GO, WHICH WAS TO EDUCATION.

AND THEN TO ALSO, AGAIN, ALWAYS FIGHT TO INCREASE TRANSPARENCY FOR TAXPAYERS, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW CHANGE HAPPENS, IS WHEN THE FOLKS WHO VOTE KNOW WHERE THEIR DOLLARS ARE GOING.

THAT'S WHEN YOU CAN BUILD THE IMPETUS FOR CHANGE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO BRING TO YOU TONIGHT, AND I'M HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY CONVERSATION TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU, CHRISTY.

SO JUST I'M JUST GOING TO I'LL OPEN UP THE CONVERSATION WITH THIS HAS BEEN A REAL SPUR UNDER MY SADDLE SINCE 2011 WHEN I GOT ON THE BOARD, AND IF YOU SAW THE GRAPH OF WHAT WE HAVE PAID, WHEN WE WHEN I GOT ON THE BOARD, WE PAY TWENTY SIX MILLION DOLLARS IN RECAPTURE AND BEFORE HOUSE BILL THREE WENT INTO EFFECT, WE PAID TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE MILLION. IN RECAPTURE IN A 10 YEAR PERIOD.

SO YOU COULD SEE THE HOCKEY STICK.

FROM 2011 TO WHERE WE WERE IN 2019, PRETTY DRAMATIC, AND IT'S A REAL PROBLEM IN PLANO AND I THINK FROM FROM MY PERSPECTIVE ON THE BUDGET SINCE.

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NOTWITHSTANDING THAT, OUR COSTS CONTINUE TO ARISE AND YOU KNOW, EIGHTY FIVE PERCENT OF OUR EXPENDITURE ARE PEOPLE, AND WE'D LIKE TO GIVE OUR PEOPLE A RAISE EVERY YEAR IF WE CAN AFFORD TO SO THAT WE CAN KEEP UP WITH INFLATION.

BUT OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS, AND RANDY CAN CORRECT ME ON THIS, BUT ESSENTIALLY OUR EXPENDABLE DOLLARS HAS STAGNATED.

AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND AS OUR RECAPTURE PAYMENT CONTINUES TO GROW, OUR SPENDABLE DOLLARS HAVE STAGNATED AND SO WE CAN'T KEEP UP WITH INFLATION, WE CAN'T KEEP UP WITH RISING COSTS AND CONTINUE TO OFFER THE SAME SERVICES THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY PROVIDING. AND SO I CALL IT DEATH BY A THOUSAND CUTS.

AND IT'S A REAL PROBLEM IN PLACES LIKE PLANO, TEXAS, WHERE WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON OUR OUR EDUCATION AND OUR CITY SERVICES AND THINGS.

AND IF YOU ALL GOT INTO A POSITION WHERE YOU COULDN'T PROVIDE THE CITY SERVICES THAT YOU EXPECT. YOU KNOW, YOUR YOUR TAXPAYERS, OUR TAXPAYERS WOULD BE MAD AT YOU ALL.

WE FEEL THAT TOO, WHEN WE CAN'T PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT WE THINK OUR STUDENTS DESERVE AND ARE APPROPRIATE FOR OUR KIDS.

THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM FOR US, AND WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING THE BATTLE FOR A LONG TIME, AND I HOPE THAT THIS BATTLE RAMPS UP HERE SHORTLY, SO THAT'S MY SOAPBOX MOMENT.

APPRECIATE YOU ALL LISTENING.

BUT LET ME OPEN THIS UP, I GUESS, TO OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, COMPLAINTS, QUERIES, CONCERNS ANYBODY ELSE? I I HAVE SOMETHING TO ASK.

CHRISTY, I ALWAYS APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND TALKING TO US AND ALL OF THE ADVOCACY WORK YOU DO FOR US 49ERS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND I, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A WHILE TOO LIKE DAVID AND.

IT'S ONE OF MY BIGGEST GRIPES, IF YOU WILL, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK OUR COMMUNITY ALWAYS UNDERSTANDS WHERE THEIR TAX DOLLARS ARE GOING.

AND SO I THINK IN WHAT WAS THAT 2017, DID WE DO TRANSPARENCY AND WE REALLY TRIED TO PUSH OUT THE INFORMATION BECAUSE REALLY, IF OUR COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS IT MIGHT PUT A BURR IN THEIR SADDLE TO SAY SOMETHING TO THEIR LEGISLATORS TO GET ACTION.

SO PART OF THAT BURR, YOU ALLUDED TO IT IN YOUR TALK WAS THE THE DIFFERENTIAL OF THE RECAPTURE FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

THAT INCREASE IN RECAPTURE IS NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO PROPERTY POOR DISTRICTS.

I WONDER IF YOU CAN JUST ELABORATE A LITTLE ABOUT WHERE IT IS GOING.

AND IT'LL MAKE PEOPLE MAD.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, YOU WE CAN'T REALLY KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT'S GOING BECAUSE IT GOES INTO THE BLACK HOLE OF GENERAL REVENUE FOR THE STATE.

AND YOU KNOW.

I USE THE EXAMPLE OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS BILL BECAUSE MONEY'S ALREADY BEEN SPENT ON SCHOOLS AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

THEY'VE ALREADY APPROPRIATED THE FUNDING TO SCHOOLS, SO THAT MEANS THAT WHEN THEY SAVE THAT MONEY, THEY'RE USING THAT WE WOULD HAVE HAD A DEFICIT IN OUR STATE BUDGET HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THE SAVINGS FROM THE FOUNDATION SCHOOL PROGRAM.

SO THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN CUTS IN THE STATE BUDGET IF PUBLIC SCHOOLS HADN'T PREVENTED THAT FROM HAPPENING. AND THAT MEANS THAT SCHOOL MONEY THAT WOULD WAS APPROPRIATED FOR SCHOOLS IN THE GENERAL APPROPRIATIONS ACT, WHICH THEY TOOK GREAT CREDIT FOR IN HOUSE BILL THREE OF HOW MUCH THEY WERE INVESTING IN OUR SCHOOLS.

IT DIDN'T ACTUALLY END UP THERE.

THEY BRAGGED ABOUT ELEVEN POINT SIX BILLION DOLLARS OF AN INVESTMENT IN OUR SCHOOLS.

BUT WHEN YOU BACK FIVE POINT TWO OUT OF ELEVEN POINT SIX.

YOU DON'T HAVE ELEVEN POINT SIX ANYMORE, SO WE CAN'T REALLY SAY WHERE IT'S BEING SPENT, BUT WE KNOW IT'S NOT BEING SPENT ON SCHOOLS.

CHRISTY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE.

AND THE THING IS THAT [INAUDIBLE] RECAPTURE HAS BEEN ON OUR AGENDA FOR OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR MANY YEARS NOW.

AND THE THING IS THAT WE I BELIEVE THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING REALLY HARD.

IS THERE ANY MORE THAT WE CAN TRY EVEN HARDER THIS? I THINK THAT. LET'S TRY SMARTER, NOT HARDER.

AND THAT THERE ARE SOME STRATEGIES THAT WE CAN USE THAT THAT MIGHT BE WINNABLE SOLUTIONS BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE RECAPTURES $3 BILLION, SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT REDUCING RECAPTURE, THAT'S VERY HARD TO DO BECAUSE IT COSTS SO MUCH MONEY.

SO IF THERE ARE SOME MORE TARGETED APPROACHES THAT WE CAN MAKE SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE GENERAL REDUCTION OF RECAPTURE, BUT THAT IT'S WE WANT TO GET THIS COST OF EDUCATION INDEX

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THANK YOU. SO I'LL ADD ONE THING, AND THEN I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROOM SO Y'ALL CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK, BUT SO Y'ALL ALL KNOW WHERE WE ARE.

WE HAVE OUR WE HAVE A TEAM OF EIGHT TRAINING ON MONDAY.

AS A SCHOOL BOARD, WE GET TOGETHER AND IT'S ONE OF OUR REQUIRED TRAININGS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND PART OF THAT DAY STARTING NOW, OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION, TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

THAT'S TYPICALLY SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD START MAYBE THE JANUARY PRIOR TO A SESSION.

WE'RE STARTING TWO YEARS BEFORE BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE A BIG BATTLE AND THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE THING ON OUR ON.

OUR FIGHT CARD IS TRYING TO WORK ON SOMETHING WITH RECAPTURE.

YOU ALL KNOW HOW THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS WORKS.

SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO INTRODUCE THINGS ONE SESSION AND THEN CONTINUE PUSHING THE NEXT THE COST OF EDUCATION INDEX THAT WAS INTRODUCED AND HAS BEEN INTRODUCED IN THE PAST, BUT IT WAS THERE WAS A PUSH THIS TIME FOR IT.

WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF TRY TO BUILD SOME MOMENTUM TO GET THAT PUSHED THROUGH AS WELL AND THEN SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND WORK WITH OTHER DISTRICTS TO COME UP WITH.

BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THIS IS GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY, PERHAPS TO GET SOMETHING DONE. AND SO YOU KNOW WHERE Y'ALL COULD COME IN TO HELP, AS IS, IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING WITH SOME MOMENTUM THAT WOULD HELP ALL OF OUR TAXPAYERS, YOU KNOW, WE'D ENLIST YOU ALL'S HELP TO THE EXTENT YOU'RE ABLE TO.

WELL, I APPRECIATE IT, THAT'S.

THE LINE GOES BACK TO NINETY FOUR, AND THAT'S WHERE I CAME IN AND UM.

THAT NINETY THREE, WE VOTED DOWN ROBIN HOOD AND WE THOUGHT, LOOK WHAT WE'VE DONE.

AND BEFORE THAT WITH CID DISTRICTS AND AND BOY, I WISH WE STILL HAD CID DISTRICTS, BUT WE VOTED DOWN ROBIN HOOD IN 93 AND SENATE BILL ONE AT THAT TIME BECAME WORSE AND THEN THE NEXT SENATE BILL BECAME WORSE.

AND IT AND I THINK YOU SAID IT RIGHT, CHRISTY, THE POLITICAL WILL JUST ISN'T THERE.

IT'S POLITICAL SUICIDE TO TRY TO DEAL WITH THIS PROBLEM.

AND SO NOBODY IS EVER GOING TO REALLY TAKE CONTROL OF IT OVER IT UNTIL I THINK THE VOTERS SAY WE'VE HAD ENOUGH.

AND I WILL TELL YOU, AND I WISH I HAD ALL THE ANSWERS.

BUT DURING THIS ENTIRE TIME, WE'VE TRIED AND I KNOW YOU'VE TRIED.

AND SO TALK ABOUT BEING SMARTER.

WE'RE ALL IN BECAUSE THE THE EDUCATION OF THIS.

PROCESS AND WHERE IT IS TODAY IS.

NOT UNDERSTOOD AT ALL.

EVEN IN A COMMUNITY LIKE PLANO, THAT'S WELL INFORMED.

SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE.

WE'D LOVE TO HELP IN THAT EDUCATION ALONG WITH YOU BECAUSE WE ALL BENEFIT FROM IT, OBVIOUSLY. AND.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO GET THE LEGISLATORS TO REALLY LOOK IN AND TRY TO COME UP WITH SOME REAL ANSWERS, BUT THE COST OF AN EDUCATION IS IS THE FIRST STEP.

[INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS, CHRISTY.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

THE FIRST IS TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, GETTING VOTERS ATTENTION.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING LIKE A WHIP COUNT IN THE IN THE PROPERTY RICH AREAS, THE LEGISLATORS COALITION OF LEGISLATORS, NOT JUST DISTRICTS THAT MIGHT BE MORE DISPOSED TOWARD ALIGNING WITH US? I DO, BUT IT'S JUST ABOUT TO CHANGE.

SO STAY TUNED AND I'LL HAVE AN UPDATE ONE FOR YOU SOON.

YES. GOOD POINT. AND THE YEAH, WITH REDISTRICTING WITH THE THE SECOND QUESTION IS, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO PROPOSE YANKING THREE BILLION DOLLARS OUT OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS, YOU GOT TO PROPOSE TO REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING.

I'M ASSUMING YOU HAVE MODELS FOR A REPLACEMENT POTENTIAL VIABLE, VIABLE SYSTEMS TO REPLACE THAT MONEY WITH IN THE PROPERTY POORER DISTRICTS THAT THEY MIGHT FIND PALATABLE, AT LEAST MORE PALATABLE THAN SOMEBODY JUST COMING UP WITH SOMETHING OUT OF THIN AIR.

WELL, REPLACING THAT 50 BILLION DOLLARS IS NOT GOING TO COME FROM THOSE PROPERTY POOR DISTRICTS. IT'S GOING TO COME FROM THE STATE AS A WHOLE.

RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHY IN THE PAST WE HAVE SUPPORTED THINGS LIKE.

INCREASED SALES TAX THAT'S GOING TO REDUCE PROPERTY TAXES AND DOING SOME OF THOSE TAX SWAPS THAT DIDN'T THAT WAS NOT PALATABLE TO THE LEGISLATORS.

BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER TAXES AS FAR AS EXPANDING THE BASE OF

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YES. ANOTHER AVENUE IS OF STATE FUNDING, YES.

BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE STATE FUNDING TO HELP TO FILL THAT GLASS.

OTHER DISTRICTS, I'D LOVE TO SPEAK WITH YOU MORE ABOUT IT.

I COULD PROBABLY GEEK OUT FOR HOURS WITH YOU.

OK, THAT'S GOOD.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS IS AN ITEM, A JOINT ITEM THAT WE HAVE WITH PISD.

OBVIOUSLY, IT IMPACTS THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

YOU HAVE OUR LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM, AND I BELIEVE PISD, ALL THE TRUSTEES HAVE OUR LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM WITH YOU AS WELL.

OUR LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM, WE ARE NOT SCHEDULED TO START ON MONDAY.

WE WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME BEFORE WE BRING THAT BACK.

BUT I DO THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PREVIEW WHAT YOU HAVE, WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING BACK AS FAR AS PISD AND THEN RECONVENE WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL AS WE START CONSIDERING THAT LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT.

FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE, AND HAVING SPENT TIME IN AUSTIN SPEAKING WITH ONE VOICE DEFINITELY CARRIES A DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF WEIGHT.

WITH LEGISLATORS.

FOR US TO BE ABLE TO.

CONSIDER HOW WE. BRING BACK.

TO COUNCIL AS PART OF OUR.

THANKS, MARK. ONE OF THE OTHER CONVERSATIONS AS WELL WAS OUR CHAMBER HAS REACHED OUT TO ASK HOW THEY CAN PARTNER ALONGSIDE THE DISTRICT AS WELL ON ISSUES RELATED TO SCHOOL FINANCE. AND SO WE'LL ALSO BE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THEM AS THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY KIND OF WEIGHS IN ON THEIR THOUGHTS ABOUT ABOUT RECAPTURING PLANO ISD.

IT'S PROBABLY HELPFUL TO THE CONVERSATION, THOUGH, TO TALK ABOUT OPERATIONAL AND HOW THIS REALLY IMPACTS OUR BUDGET.

SO I'VE SAID ON THE SCHOOL BOARD NOW FOR THREE YEARS AND WE HAVE WE HAVE VOTED IN A DEFICIT BUDGET ALL THREE YEARS.

AND THAT'S REALLY UNSETTLING TO ME AS A PERSON WHO LIKES TO MAKE THINGS WORK OUT.

AND SO WE'RE GOING INTO OUR FUND BALANCE.

SO THE FIRST YEAR, RANDY, HELP ME IF MY NUMBERS ARE RIGHT, FIRST YEAR, THREE YEARS AGO, WE HAD SEVEN MILLION.

TWO YEARS AGO, IT WAS TEN MILLION.

AND THIS PAST YEAR IT WAS 19 MILLION, SO IT'S REALLY GOING IN A VERY NOT NOT JUST KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING IN THE LINEAR BAD DIRECTION.

IT'S GOING TO MUCH GREATER.

AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO REALIZE THAT.

THE REASON WHY WE'RE DOING, WE HAVE TO HAVE A.

DIP INTO THE FUND BALANCE IS GOING BACK TO MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE MOST COMPETENT AND WELL-PAID TEACHERS.

AND BE COMPETITIVE WITH OUR EMPLOYEES, TO WHICH I THINK DAVID SAID 85 PERCENT OF OUR BUDGET IS EMPLOYEES.

SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT METRIC ALSO BE A PART OF YOUR LANGUAGE AND AS YOU'RE TALKING THROUGH THIS. SO I GUESS THAT WE HAVE ARE WE READY TO MOVE TO THE NEXT? OK, SO I'M GOING TO JUST TO THROW YOU GUYS A BONE TO WRAP THIS ONE UP.

I KNOW WHEN THE PROPERTY TAX BILLS GO OUT AND YOU ALL GET ANGRY EMAILS FROM PEOPLE ASKING WHY YOUR TAXES ARE SO HIGH AND YOU ALL KEEP SAYING IT'S NOT US, IT'S THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WE'RE GOING TO HELP YOU WITH TOOLS SO THAT YOU CAN DEFEND YOURSELF SEND THEM OUR WAY.

WE WILL EDUCATE THEM ON WHY IT'S THAT WAY AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET A GROUNDSWELL OF SUPPORT TO MAKE SOME REAL CHANGE THAT IS SINCERELY APPRECIATED FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE. WE ARE HERE FOR A IT'S A VALUE ADD PRESENTATION HERE FOR Y'ALL.

HEY, DAVID. HEY, DAVID.

YEAH, I THINK LAUREN MIGHT HAVE HAD A QUESTION.

I HAD ONE AS WELL. OH, OK.

SORRY, GO AHEAD. THINK WAS ON BEFORE.

IS IT ON OK, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS REALLY OFTEN LEFT OUT OF THIS CONVERSATION IS HOW [INAUDIBLE] IS CALCULATED BECAUSE WE GET SORT OF THIS GLASS PER STUDENT.

BUT THEN THERE ARE ADJUSTMENTS MADE BASED ON WHETHER THAT STUDENT HAS SPECIAL EDUCATION NEEDS OR GIFTED AND TALENTED NEEDS.

BUT I THINK WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IS THAT SOME OF THOSE CATEGORIES ARE CAPPED, AND THEN IN OTHER CASES, IT'S AS FAR AS PERCENTAGE OF STUDENTS THAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO CLAIM. AND THEN IN OTHER CASES, WE HAVE STUDENTS THAT WE MAY BE INCURRING ADDITIONAL COSTS TO EDUCATE, LIKE UNDER CERTAIN 504 PLANS THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING AN ADJUSTMENT FOR. AND SO I WAS WONDERING IF EITHER YOU, CHRIS OR RANDY COULD KIND OF WALK THROUGH AND EDUCATE US A LITTLE BIT ON WHO WE DO, WHO WE DON'T GET THAT ADJUSTMENT FOR AND HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT STUDENTS WERE NOT GETTING AN INCREASE UP FOR, BUT WE'RE PAYING MORE TO EDUCATE.

I'LL GIVE YOU THE GLOBAL ANSWER, AND THEN RANDY CAN SPEAK SPECIFICS.

SO I THINK WHAT THAT COMES DOWN TO IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU BELIEVE THE SCHOOL FINANCE FORMULA IS TRULY ADJUST FOR THE COST DIFFERENTIAL FOR THOSE STUDENTS.

THEY MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS IN 2019 THROUGH HOSPITAL THREE AND MADE SOME OF THOSE WAITS BETTER. BUT, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY DIDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES TO SPECIAL EDUCATION.

AND I THINK WE'VE KNOWN FOR A LONG TIME THAT THE STATE DOES NOT THAT FUNDING WEIGHT IN

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SO THAT'S ONE THING. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PLACES WHERE THERE ARE CAPS.

GIFTED AND TALENTED IS ONE OF THEM, AND IT WAS TAKEN AWAY AND NOW IT'S BACK.

AND THE TROUBLING THING THAT I'LL SAY ABOUT THE GIFTED AND TALENTED FUNDING IS THAT IT HAS A HAS A NOT ONLY A CAP OF HOW MANY STUDENTS CAN QUALIFY, BUT THERE'S ALSO AN APPROPRIATIONS CAP.

SO SCHOOL DISTRICTS RUN INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF IF STATEWIDE WE HIT THE APPROPRIATIONS CAP FOR THAT, THEN EVERYBODY IS FUNDING FOR GIFTED AND TALENTED GETS PRORATED AND YOU DON'T KNOW THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN UNTIL THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR AFTER THE MONEY SPENT.

SO I'M A LITTLE BIT TROUBLED ABOUT THAT TREND IN SCHOOL FINANCE AND THAT WE MIGHT SEE SOME MORE OF THAT IN THE FUTURE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE KIND OF WANT TO GUARD AGAINST BECAUSE DISTRICTS NEED TO KNOW AND BE ABLE TO MAKE STRATEGIC DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR BUDGET BEFORE THE MONEY SPENT INSTEAD OF AFTER.

BUT YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO ANY OF THE OTHER SPECIFIC COSTS FOR STUDENTS THAT ARE NOT COVERED. I'M SURE SO I JUST WROTE DOWN SOME OF THE SPECIAL PROGRAMS, SO THEY REFERRED TO SPECIAL EDUCATION.

THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONE AREA THAT WE SPEND THE MOST ABOVE WHAT WE RECEIVE.

IT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE AREA THAT WE HAVE PER CHILD.

WE DO RECEIVE A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL ADDITIONAL ADJUSTMENT, BUT IT IS VERY IT IS A VERY EXPENSIVE PROGRAM.

AND SO I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER, I WOULD SAY WE'RE PROBABLY SUPPLEMENTING SPECIAL ED 20 TO 30 TO 40 MILLION PER YEAR OUT OF OTHER REVENUES, SO THAT'S ONE COMPENSATORY EDUCATION IS ANOTHER. SO THAT'S BASED ON OUR FREE AND REDUCED STUDENTS.

BUT THE MONEY HAS TO BE SPENT ON STUDENTS THAT ARE AT RISK OF DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL BASED ON ONE OF 14 CRITERIA.

ANOTHER ONE IS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE GIFTED AND TALENTED.

THERE'S ALSO THE BILINGUAL ALLOTMENT.

SO FOR EVERY BILINGUAL STUDENT, WE DO RECEIVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WE SPEND ON THOSE STUDENTS AND THEN 5.4 IS THE BIG AREA.

IT'S ONE OF THE BIG AREAS.

SO IF A STUDENT IS HAS TO BE HOMEBOUND BECAUSE THEY BREAK THEIR LEG OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND WE STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE SERVICE, THEN WE DON'T GET ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THAT. THAT'S ON US. AND THEN ONE MORE IS THE DYSLEXIA.

AND SO THERE'S BEEN SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT ONE.

PREVIOUSLY, WE WEREN'T FUNDED AT ALL FOR THAT.

NOW THERE IS A SMALL DYSLEXIA ADJUSTMENT, SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING, SO IT'S PRETTY COMPLICATED. EACH STUDENT STANDS ALONE BASED ON HOW MUCH FUNDING THEY GENERATE.

BUT, BUT BUT THAT IS ONE OF OUR CHALLENGE.

AND THEN SO JUST ONE MORE POINT BASED ON THE PRIOR CONVERSATION.

SO EVERY TIME WE GIVE A SALARY INCREASE, EVERY PERCENT COST US ABOUT THREE POINT FIVE MILLION. SO TWO PERCENT RAISE, WHICH IS PRETTY NOMINAL, COST US $7 MILLION.

WHEN YOU'VE GOT DECLINING ENROLLMENT, YOU ACTUALLY GENERATE LESS FUNDING.

YOU TRY TO GIVE A TWO PERCENT SALARY INCREASE.

WE CANNOT GIVE A TAX INCREASE THAT MAKE EACH STUDENT WORTH MORE WITHOUT VOTER APPROVAL.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES.

THERE IS NO TAX INCREASE OPTION WITHOUT VOTER APPROVAL, AND WE'VE ONLY GOT THREE JUST OVER THREE ADDITIONAL PENNIES THAT WE COULD EVEN GO AFTER WITH VOTER APPROVAL.

AND EACH ONE OF THOSE GENERATES JUST OVER THREE MILLION.

SO EVEN IF WE DID A TAX RATIFICATION ELECTION ACCESSED EVERY PENNY THAT A SCHOOL DISTRICT'S ELIGIBLE FOR, WE COULD GENERATE ABOUT 10 MILLION.

YOU GIVE A THREE PERCENT RAISE ONE YEAR AND YOU ATE THAT UP.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT.

BIG PICTURE. YEAH, SO SO WE ARE FACING DECLINING ENROLLMENT AND PLANO. IT'S NOT THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE MOVING OUT OF PLANO, IT'S REALLY MORE OF AN AGING POPULATION ISSUE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE PRICE POINT OF HOUSES IN PLANO IS VERY HIGH OR EVER HOME, AS YOU KNOW, SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND OR SO.

NO, IT'S ABOUT FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND.

AND SO IT IS HARD FOR YOUNG FAMILIES TO MOVE IN.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING, IT'S NOT FAMILIES MOVING OUT.

IT'S WHEN WE HAVE A ON A NORMAL YEAR AND I'M TALKING PRE-COVID HERE.

BUT IN A NORMAL YEAR, OUR GRADUATING CLASS IS ABOUT 600 STUDENTS LARGER THAN OUR INCOMING KINDERGARTEN, SO WE'RE DOWN SIX HUNDRED.

NOW WE DO HAVE SOME GROWTH IN THAT.

IT WAS IT WAS ACCOUNTING FOR AN ADDITIONAL ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY TO TWO HUNDRED STUDENTS. SO WE WERE SEEING A DECLINE OF ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FOUR TO FIVE HUNDRED STUDENTS PER YEAR. JUST BASED ON ON THAT.

YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR DEMOGRAPHER IS OPTIMISTICALLY IS WHEN HE PROJECTS THAT HE'S OPTIMISTIC THAT AT SOME POINT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WILL START TURNING OVER IN, YOUNGER FAMILIES WILL MOVE IN. SO WE'RE KEEPING OUR FINGERS CROSSED FOR THAT DAY.

BUT THAT HAS BEEN A PRETTY BIG CHALLENGE.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, COVID, YOU KNOW, WE WERE DOWN OVER 2000 STUDENTS LAST YEAR.

WE WERE PROJECTING SOME REBOUND FROM THAT.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE ABOUT 7800 STUDENTS UNDER PROJECTION AGAIN, EVEN AFTER WE PROJECTED A DECLINE. AND SO AND THAT'S NOT UNIQUE TO PLANO.

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BUT AGAIN, WE'RE CROSSING OUR FINGERS HOPING THAT TURNS AROUND, BECAUSE IF THAT DOESN'T TURN AROUND PRETTY QUICK, WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT STAFFING ADJUST.

WE'VE MADE STAFFING ADJUSTMENTS.

WE'VE MADE STAFF SIGNIFICANT STAFFING ADJUSTMENTS, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE MORE SIGNIFICANT STAFFING ADJUSTMENTS TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT IF WE DON'T GET THAT REBOUND PRETTY.

YOU CAN'T KEEP ADOPTING 19 MILLION DOLLAR DEFICITS FOR VERY LONG.

AND CHRISTY, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK ONE QUESTION IN REGARDS TO SO DISTRICTS LIKE US THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH AT OUR TAX CAPACITY.

THE DISTRICTS THAT RECEIVE FUNDING.

DO THEY HAVE A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE THEIR PROPERTY TAX RATE AT THE MAX? THE WAY WE DO? NO, THEY DO NOT.

AND THERE ARE. SO THERE ARE DISTRICTS THAT DO NOT PAY RECAPTURE THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER TAX RATES THAN PLANO DOES.

AND SO THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY, BUT THEY ARE NOT MR. CHOOSING NOT TO. YES, CHOOSING NOT TO.

AND THEY DO RECEIVE DOLLARS AS WELL.

SOMEWHERE IN THERE IN THE BLACK HOLE, YES.

AND THEY CERTAINLY ARE RECEIVING DOLLARS FROM THE STATE.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON THE YOU SAID SEVENTEEN HUNDRED IS WHAT YOU'RE UNDER THIS YEAR, DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA THAT WOULD SHOW YOU IF THAT SEVEN HUNDRED IS? HOW MUCH OF THAT MIGHT BE ATTRIBUTED TO PEOPLE CHOOSING ALTERNATIVE? SO WE CAN TRACK SOME OF THAT DEPENDING ON IF THEY'VE REQUESTED RECORDS, SO SOMETIMES WE KNOW SOMETIMES IT'S PRE K K AND WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

WE'RE ESTIMATING HOW MANY NEW ENROLLEES AT PRE-K [INAUDIBLE] WILL GET.

AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT IT'S EASIER IF THEY WERE WITH US AND THEN THEY LEFT, WE HAVE LESS OF THAT. UM, I KNOW LAST YEAR, SIXTY FIVE PERCENT OF OUR ENROLLMENT LOSS WAS PRE-K THROUGH ONE. SO THE YOUNGER GRADES A LITTLE HARDER TO TRACK BECAUSE THEY THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN WITH US BEFORE.

SO ONE MORE QUESTION, AND I'M GOING TO USE THE FORTY ONE, FORTY TWO, BECAUSE WHAT'S WHAT'S THE OPPOSITE OF FORTY TWO NOW? OK, I'M GOING TO SAY, SO WHAT IS THE WITH WITH THE THE PRIZE VALUES OBVIOUSLY GOING UP, BUT I SAW THE I SAW THE MAP.

WHAT'S THE RATIO TO FORTY ONE FORTY TWOS TODAY? I'M SORRY, I'M USING THE WRONG NUMBER.

THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY ROUGHLY A LITTLE UNDER TWO HUNDRED DISTRICTS THAT PAY RECAPTURE AND THERE ARE OVER A THOUSAND DISTRICTS.

SO THAT THAT'S STAYED PRETTY STEADY THROUGHOUT.

IT HAS IT DID. IT DID CLIMB UP TO 400 DISTRICTS AT ONE TIME.

YEAH, AND NOW IT'S BACK IN THE TWO HUNDRED DISTRICT RANGE.

AND THAT'S ATTRIBUTABLE TO BILL THREE IN THE WAY THAT IT CHANGED THE WAY WE CALCULATE RECAPTURE BECAUSE WE HAD A NUMBER OF DISTRICTS BEFORE WHO WERE CHAPTER 41 BUT NOT PAYING RECAPTURE. AND NOW WE HAVE A CLOSER CORRELATION BETWEEN IF YOU'RE A 49ER, YOU'RE ACTUALLY SENDING MONEY. A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT AS WE LOOK AT PROSPECTIVE ALLIES AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS AROUND THE STATE.

HAS THERE BEEN ANY ANALYSIS OF THE TRENDING PROPERTY VALUES IN TEXAS OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS OR SO TO SEE IF ANY ADDITIONAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS, EVEN AFTER HB THREE THAT ARE NOT PAYING RECAPTURE NOW, ARE ON THE TREND TO BECOME RECAPTURE DISTRICTS? THERE ARE A FEW THAT ARE THAT ARE TRENDING IN THAT DIRECTION, BUT, YOU KNOW.

A LOT OF TIMES IN DISTRICTS WHERE YOU'RE EXPERIENCING A GREAT DEAL OF GROWTH OF STUDENTS, BOOMING AREAS, AND SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTY VALUE GROWTH, YOU HAVE ENOUGH STUDENT GROWTH TO MAKE UP FOR THAT.

SO IT TAKES UNTIL THE TIME WHEN THAT POPULATION GROWTH SETTLES AND KIND OF BEGINS TO PLATEAU. BUT YET THE VALUES CONTINUE TO CLIMB, AND THAT'S WHEN THEY BEGIN TO PAY RECAPTURE. SO I THINK FOLLOWING UP ON BOTH THOSE QUESTIONS, PART OF OUR STRATEGY IS THERE WAS A SPIKE IN THE NUMBER OF PAYING DISTRICTS BEFORE HOUSE BILL THREE.

AND SO TO LOOK AT THOSE DISTRICTS TO SEE IF THEY FELL BELOW THE LINE, HOW CLOSE THEY ARE TO GOING BACK ABOVE THE LINE BECAUSE THOSE ARE PARTNER DISTRICTS AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, REPRESENTATIVE STATE SENATORS AND STATE LEGISLATORS WHO CAN HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN SEEING THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

SO IDENTIFYING THOSE DISTRICTS IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT.

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BUT. AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT THAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS IS SOME VERY BIG DISTRICTS ARE NOW PAYING THAT DID NOT USE TO PAY WITH SOME VERY POWERFUL LEGISLATORS.

AND SO GETTING THOSE PEOPLE INTO THE FIGHT AND I'M SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT HOUSTON AND DALLAS GETTING THEM INTERESTED AND ALIGNED IS COULD BE A VALUABLE PARTNER.

SO ANYBODY ELSE ON PISD SIDE SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER, HOLD YOUR PEACE? ALL RIGHT, SADIA PLANO SIDE.

ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD, WELL, CHRISTY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT REPORT, SO WE'LL MOVE ON NOW THAT THAT WAS AN UPLIFTING REPORT.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU, DAVID.

[3.3. Community Investment Program (CIP) Coordination]

CITY MANAGER MARK ISRAELSON WILL PRESENT THE UPDATE.

THANK YOU. I LIKE THIS TRAVELING MICROPHONE SYSTEM, BY THE WAY, SO SHELLY, PLEASE MAKE NOTE FOR US, FOR THE FUTURE.

SO GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL PRESIDENT STOLLE AND TRUSTEES TONIGHT, I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN CITY OF PLANO AND PISD OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. I'VE BEEN DOING SOME RESEARCH AFTER THE RECENT CITY OF PLANO BOND REFERENDUM.

AS YOU KNOW, THE CITIZENS IN PLANO APPROVED A LARGE BOND REFERENDUM THAT HAD A LOT TO DO WITH MAINTAINING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE CITY, AND WE JUST SPOKE JUST A MOMENT AGO ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS STAY VIBRANT AND ATTRACTIVE TO CITIZENS AND FAMILIES.

SO THE CITY HAS A VERY FOCUSED EFFORT RIGHT NOW ON REVITALIZATION OF A LOT OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THERE'S NOBODY THAT UNDERSTANDS THE BOOMING GROWTH THAT WE WE UNDERWENT IN THE 60S, 70S AND 80S, MORE SO THAN PISD.

AND SO AS PART OF OUR RESEARCH THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, ONE OF THE THINGS WE RAN ACROSS WAS THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN PISD AND THE CITY OF PLANO.

AND SO YOU HAVE A MAP IN THE BACK OF YOUR LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM THAT SHOWS 30 DIFFERENT SITES ACROSS THE CITY OF PLANO THAT WERE PURCHASED FAIRLY SIMULTANEOUSLY BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND THIS GOES BACK TO A PHILOSOPHY THAT WAS DEVELOPED BACK IN THE 70S OF PARTNERSHIPS, WHERE THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WERE BOTH DEALING WITH CONSTRAINED RESOURCES, BOOMING GROWTH AND THE NEED TO TO MAKE SURE THAT SERVICES WERE PROVIDED TO OUR COMMUNITIES. BUT WE'RE NOW IN THAT TIME FRAME THAT WE'RE REVITALIZING A LOT OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. SO HEAVY FOCUS ON ROADS, PARKS, PLAYGROUNDS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND IN MEETING WITH SARA BONSER AND HER TEAM NOT TOO LONG AGO, ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS WE HAD WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF STARTING AN ANNUAL REPORT TO HOPEFULLY A COMBINED GROUP LIKE THIS ABOUT HOW THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT MIGHT SEQUENCE AND PARTNER IN THE REVITALIZATION AT CERTAIN TIMES WHERE OUR PROJECTS OVERLAP.

SO THE IDEA IS, IF YOU GO INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE IS TYPICALLY AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK ADJACENT TO ONE ANOTHER.

WELL, BOTH OF THOSE NEED UPDATING AND REVITALIZATION AT SOME POINT.

AND SO TAKING OUR CAPITAL INVESTMENT PROGRAMS AND WORKING THROUGH OUR TEAMS LIKE JACK CARR AND HIS TEAM AND THE TEAM AT PISD, THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT IF BOTH ARE ALIGNING WITHIN MAYBE SEVERAL YEARS OF ONE ANOTHER, THAT OUR STAFFS TRY TO WORK TOGETHER TO SEE HOW WE MIGHT SEQUENCE THOSE.

SO THE PARK, THE SCHOOL AND MAYBE SOME OF THE ROADS AROUND IT ARE ALL REFRESHED AT THE SAME TIME. THE IDEA IS IF YOU'RE A FAMILY LOOKING TO TO INVEST IN PLANO AND MAYBE ONE OF THOSE HIGHER PRICED HOMES IN THE PARK AND THE SCHOOL AND THE ROADS AROUND IT HAVE BEEN REVITALIZED, IT MIGHT BE A MORE VIBRANT, MORE ATTRACTIVE, ATTRACTIVE AREA FOR FAMILIES TO LOOK FOR PLANO. SO OUR SUGGESTION IS, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO BRING TO THIS GROUP IS THE IDEA OF STARTING AN ANNUAL MEETING AMONG OURSELVES TO TALK ABOUT THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE USING THOSE AS FORCE MULTIPLIERS TOGETHER TO REVITALIZE AND KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AS VIBRANT AS POSSIBLE, WHICH IS IN Y 'ALL'S INTEREST. IT'S IN OUR INTEREST AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. BUT WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY GOING BACK 50 YEARS THAT WE DID HAVE

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SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

IN TALKING WITH SARA, I THINK WE HAVE HER SUPPORT IN DOING THAT.

BUT WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SUGGEST IS THAT WE MAKE AN ANNUAL REPORT BACK TO THIS COLLECTIVE BODY ON WHAT THOSE PROJECTS MIGHT BE, THAT WE COULD DO, THAT PARTNERING OR SEQUENCING AND ALLOW YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER AS TWO BODIES, BUT TOWARDS ONE COMMUNITY TO MAKE THIS MORE VIBRANT AND KEEP OUR COMMUNITY IS AS PROSPEROUS AS POSSIBLE.

SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR ACTUALLY WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO LET JACK CARR ANSWER [LAUGHTER].

ANY QUESTIONS? I WAS I WAS LOOKING AT THE MAP AND I NOTICED THAT ON OUR EAST SIDE, WE DO HAVE A GREEN BELT.

AND I NOTICE THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THAT BOUNDARY LINE.

AND HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW FAR IS IT TO GO FROM ALL THE WAY FROM COAL TO DOWN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO GEORGE BUSH? I MEAN, HOW ARE.

I KNOW THAT YOU'RE DOING A BIKE PATH.

AND SO FORTH, AND YOU EXPANDING ON THE EAST SIDE.

SO WHICH WHICH AREA ARE WE TALKING ALONG THE COTTONWOOD, GREEN, GREEN BELT, CONCRETE GREEN BELT? WE CAN GET YOU A REPORT ON EXACTLY WHAT THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE THAT WE HAVE GOING ON THERE. WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE.

WE CONTINUE TO EXPAND OUR HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE AS ROBUST AND AS GOOD A CONDITION AS WE CAN POSSIBLY MAKE IN THE CITY.

BUT OCCASIONALLY, LIKE THE HOUSES WE HAVE, LIKE THE SIDEWALKS WE HAVE, WE HAVE SHIFTING SOILS WITHIN THE CITY.

SO SOMETIMES IT'S A REPLACEMENT.

SOMETIMES IT'S AN EXPANSION, BUT WE CAN GET YOU SOME EXACT DETAIL ON EXACTLY HOW FAR THAT EXPANSION IS GOING TO GOING TO RESULT AS FAR AS THE CONNECTION THERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.

ONE THING I'LL SAY AS A FATHER OF A TWO YEAR OLD AND SOMEBODY THAT LOVES OUR LOCAL PARKS AND LOVES HOW CLOSE THEY ARE TO THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE OUR SCHOOLS ARE SO WALKABLE.

I KNOW A LOT OF FAMILIES WILL APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BRING A LOT OF FAMILIES TO OUR COMMUNITY.

I GET TO MEET A LOT OF PARENTS AND I LET THEM KNOW THAT I'M ON THE SCHOOL BOARD AND I TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE SCHOOLS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT I THINK OUR FAMILIES GET TO COME TO SOME OF THESE PARKS.

THE JACK CARTER HAVING THE I FORGET THE WORD FOR ALL ABILITIES, ALL ABILITIES IS JUST AWESOME. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK COLLABORATION LIKE THIS IS GREAT AND IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE MORE OF AN ATMOSPHERE FOR WHEN THE AGING POPULATION GOES TO FLORIDA.

THEY CAN DEFINITELY FIND SOME FAMILIES TO TAKE OVER THEIR HOME OVER HERE.

COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT KIND OF IRKED ME A LITTLE BIT, SO I HAVE TO RESPOND TO IT, SO THE AGING POPULATION IN PLANO THAT INCLUDES ME WANT TO STAY IN PLANO AND WE LOVE OUR PARKS BECAUSE WE HAVE MUCH MORE TIME TO ROAM AROUND THE TRAILS AND THE BIKE TRAILS AND THE PARKS. BUT I GET YOUR POINT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT PLANO PARKS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

YEAH, I APPRECIATE.

I THOUGHT NANCY MIGHT BE CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN SHE WAS MOVING.

SHOTS FIRED. I HAVE TO TURN ON MY MICROPHONE.

THAT'S A DIG.

I'M NOT. NO.

[INAUDIBLE] VERY PLEASANT HERE.

[INAUDIBLE] A MEMBER OF THE AGING POPULATION, I WAS A LITTLE TAKEN ABACK.

BUT WE SAY WHEN THE AGING POPULATION OF PLANO DOWNSIZES TO OTHER PARTS OF PLANO, THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE NEED TO BACKTRACK.

[3.2. Student Resource Officer (SRO) Program Update]

THAT'S OK. AND SO WE HAVE A REPORT NOW ON THE STUDENT RESOURCE OFFICER PROGRAM, WHICH IS A FANTASTIC JOINT PROGRAM BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE DISTRICT.

AND SO WE'D LIKE TO INVITE.

THE HERE ARE UPDATE ON STUDENT RESOURCE OFFICER PROGRAM, AND I'M GOING TO INVITE BART ROSEBERRY TO COME UP. PLANO ISD IS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR SECURITY AND POLICE CHIEF ED CRANE TO BEGIN THE UPDATE.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

PRESIDENT STOLLE, GOOD EVENING, AND CHIEF [INAUDIBLE], IT'S NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT ASSISTANT CHIEF DAN CURTIS IS SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, CHIEF.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND AS WE LOOK THIS, THIS IS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND WE ARE SO THANKFUL FOR THE PARTNERSHIP.

AND I WORK DAILY WITH OUR SROS AND ALL OF OUR STAFF, PROTECTING OUR SCHOOLS AND AND

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SO JUST FOR AWARENESS.

THE PROGRAM WE HAVE TWENTY FOUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS AND THEY ARE STATIONED AT ALL OF OUR SECONDARY SCHOOLS.

SO THAT'S OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS, OUR NINE, THEN HIGH SCHOOLS AND ALSO OUR SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL. SO EVERY CAMPUS HAS AN SRO AT IT, AND OUR SENIOR HIGH SCHOOLS ALSO HAVE TWO SROS AT EACH CAMPUS. SO WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL SRO THERE.

ONE IMPORTANT THING THAT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT ALSO, WE HAVE TWO SRO SUPERVISORS THAT WORK WITH US, THAT'S [INAUDIBLE] MARTINEZ AND PAT CLARK.

THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING, LEADING THE PROGRAM AND WORKING WITH US THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT WE WORK ON.

BOTH TOBY AND PAT ARE.

I TALK WITH THEM NEARLY EVERY INSTRUCTION DAY ABOUT OUR PROGRAM AND HELPING OUR KIDS AND OUR CAMPUSES, AND IT IS JUST AN OUTSTANDING THING.

SO AGAIN, THE PARTNERSHIP IS OUTSTANDING.

JUST A VERY QUICK OVERVIEW ON OUR SROS AND ON A DAILY BASIS, WHAT WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN CAMPUSES. SO THE FIRST THING SROS, YOU KNOW, THEIR PRIORITIES ARE FIRST RESPONDERS TO THREATS AND EMERGENCIES.

THEY'RE ON CAMPUS, THEY'RE THERE TO RESPOND IF THERE ARE SOME SORT OF OF EMERGENCY OR CRISIS. THE OTHER PRIORITY THEY HAVE IS WHEN THERE ARE SOME SORT OF INVESTIGATION THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR ON CAMPUS, THAT IS A CRIMINAL MATTER.

AND SO THEY LEAD THOSE INVESTIGATIONS ON CAMPUS.

THE SECOND THING THAT THEY DO AND ALSO ALL THE TIME WORKING WITH OUR STAFF AND OUR STUDENTS AND THINGS ON CAMPUS IS AN EDUCATOR.

SO WHAT I MEAN BY THAT? THERE'S TIMES WHERE OUR SROS WILL BE ASKED TO WORK IN OUR CLASSROOMS AND TEACH CERTAIN TOPICS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, REALLY ASSISTING THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE.

AND AND THAT'S ALWAYS A GREAT THING THAT IS HELPING OUR STAFF.

AND ALSO, IT KIND OF MOVES INTO THE THIRD CATEGORY AS COUNSELOR.

AND WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT IS THEIR ON CAMPUS DEVELOPING A GREAT RAPPORT WITH OUR STUDENTS.

THEY'RE IN HALLWAYS, GREETING OUR STUDENTS.

YOU'LL SEE OUR SROS AT, YOU KNOW, AT IN THE CAFETERIA, AT LUNCHTIME, TALKING AND WORKING WITH OUR STUDENTS. AND SO THE RAPPORT AND THE AND THE RELATIONSHIP BUILDING AND ALL THOSE THINGS WORK REALLY WELL FOR US, AND WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR THAT.

SO KIND OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE AND AND OUR SROS ARE REALLY A BIG COMPONENT OF WHAT I DEFINE AS OUR COMPREHENSIVE SAFETY AND SECURITY PROGRAM AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE DO HOLISTICALLY TO TO PROTECT OUR OUR KIDS.

AND SO PART OF THOSE IS WORKING WITH OUR SROS, GETTING THEIR INPUT AND FEEDBACK WHEN WE DO THINGS SUCH AS ENHANCING OUR TECHNOLOGY IN SECURITY CAMERAS AND THOSE TYPE THINGS GET IN THEIR INPUT ON THE BEST WAYS TO DEPLOY SOME OF OUR SAFETY AND SECURITY EQUIPMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE IT'S A TEAM, A TEAM ASPECT.

SO AND KIND OF THE LAST THING IS AS WE LOOK TOWARDS THE FUTURE IS A CONTINUOUS ASSESSMENT OF REALLY CAMPUS SAFETY AND SECURITY BEST PRACTICES AS OVER THE YEARS AS SROS HAVE BEEN ON CAMPUSES ACROSS THE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

WE ALWAYS HAVE TO KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE BEST PRACTICES, INCREASING OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND TO EMERGENCIES AND THEN JUST THE DAILY THINGS THAT WE DO TO PROTECT CAMPUS.

AND THAT'S SOMETIMES AS SIMPLE AS OUR VISITOR MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND OUR TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE USE TO PROTECT CAMPUS.

BUT OUR SROS ARE PART OF THAT ASSESSMENT AS WE LOOK AT THE BEST WAYS TO PROTECT CAMPUSES AND OUR KIDS. SO THAT'S REALLY JUST A VERY BRIEF, QUICK OVERVIEW, AND WE'LL WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

MARK, CAN YOU EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL TRAINING THAT SROS RECEIVE ON TOP OF THEIR TYPICAL POLICE TRAINING? YES, SIR, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

SO SROS RECEIVE ADDITIONAL TRAINING IN CHIEF.

CURTIS CAN ALSO ADD INTO THIS IF NEEDED, BUT WE THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL TRAINING THAT'S REQUIRED BY TECO AS 20 HOURS OF TRAINING THAT'S SPECIFIC TO OFFICERS WORKING IN CAMPUSES.

AND I BELIEVE WE ALSO THE CITY SENDS OUR SROS TO ADDITIONAL TRAINING ON TOP OF THAT TO IF YOU WANT TO EXPAND.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT. OF COURSE, ANY TIME THE LEGISLATURE MANDATES ADDITIONAL TRAINING FOR SROS, WE WE CATCH UP ON THAT IN THE SUMMERTIME, WHICH HAS OCCURRED A COUPLE OF TIMES.

UM, ALL OF OUR OFFICERS IN THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT GO THROUGH ACTIVE SHOOTER TRAINING EVERY TWO YEARS DURING OUR IN-SERVICE TRAINING, AND WE GENERALLY PARTNER WITH THE SCHOOL

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BUT WE PROVIDE THAT TRAINING FOR ALL OF OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT IF SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN IN THE SCHOOL, IT'S GOING TO BE THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER THAT'S THERE FIRST AND THEN RESPONDING PATROL OFFICERS ARE GOING TO BE ASSISTING. SO WE DO PROVIDE THAT ADDITIONAL TRAINING FOR ALL OF OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS OVER AND ABOVE WHAT ALL OF OUR OFFICERS GET.

THANK YOU. GOOD QUESTION.

HEY, BART, HOW CAN YOU HIGHLIGHT HOW THE DISTRICT AND THE CITY PARTNER WITH THE VEHICLES THAT THE DISTRICT OWNS AND WITH THE SROS USING THOSE VEHICLES AND HOW THEY PATROL? VERY GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU.

SO OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL SROS HAVE A DISTRICT VEHICLE THAT WE UTILIZE FOR THEM TO VISIT OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

SO EACH MIDDLE SCHOOL SRO HAS THREE OR FOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS THAT THEY VISIT ONCE A WEEK ON CAMPUS.

AND THOSE VEHICLES ARE REALLY THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR TRANSPORTATION TO VISITING OUR OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

I THINK A NON-EMERGENCY TYPE SCENARIOS.

THEY ALSO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS USING THE VEHICLES, AND IT'S A GOOD PARTNERSHIP. IF YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THE VEHICLES, YOU KNOW IT HAS, YOU KNOW, POLICE ON THE SIDE AND PLANO ISD AND AND IT'S IT'S VERY IT'S A HIGH VISIBILITY THING THAT WE HAVE AND AND IT'S A GOOD THING. THANKS FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION.

I WANTED TO ASK THIS BECAUSE IT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT TIMELY RIGHT NOW WITH ALL OF THE NEWS AND YOU KNOW, YOU'RE READING EVERY DAY ABOUT THE STRANGE TIKTOK CHALLENGE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING FROM THINGS THAT SEEM RELATIVELY MINOR TO ACTUAL DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY. AND YOU KNOW, THE USUAL KIND OF SCHOOL PRANKS THAT NOW THAT WE HAVE OUR CAMPUS IS FULL AGAIN, MAYBE HAPPENING LIKE PULLING A FIRE ALARM.

AND SO I WAS HOPING IF YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF AN IDEA OF HOW OUR SROS ARE WORKING WITH OUR CAMPUSES TO TRY AND AVOID SOME OF THOSE CHALLENGES AND AND WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS COULD BE FOR SOME OF OUR STUDENTS IN IN MAYBE PULLING SOME OF THOSE PRANKS BECAUSE IN SOME CASES IT CAN BE QUITE QUITE CONCERNING.

YEAH. VERY GOOD QUESTION, SO, YOU KNOW, WE WE LOOK AT THOSE THINGS AS YOU KNOW, OUR SROS ARE INVOLVED IN SOME THINGS THAT ARE A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION, BUT THERE'S ALSO THINGS THAT WOULD BE MORE OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION THAT THE CAMPUS ADMINISTRATORS DO.

AND SO AS WE LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THAT, WE HAVE TO DETERMINE THE BEST ROUTE ON THAT.

AND A LOT OF TIMES THAT THAT ROUTE IS TOGETHER ON THAT INVESTIGATION.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, WE WE HAD COMMUNICATED EARLIER THIS WEEK ABOUT SOME A LETTER TO OUR PARENTS. YOU KNOW, THE PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE WITH PARENTS WORKING WITH OUR STUDENTS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ALWAYS ONE THING THAT WE LOOK AT THAT THAT HELPED SOLVE SOME OF THESE TOP ISSUES.

IT'S REALLY ALL THE THINGS WE DO COMBINED THAT REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO WORKING WITH OUR PARENTS, THE THINGS WE DO PROACTIVELY WORKING WITH STUDENTS AND OUR CAMPUS ADMINISTRATORS, THOSE THINGS COMBINED OR HOW WE ARE EFFECTIVE AT DETERRING AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION.

THIS IS JUST ABOUT LIKE, UM, DO YOU KNOW HOW TEACHERS HAVE SUBSTITUTES, HOW OR WHO SUBSTITUTES FOR SROS? VERY GOOD QUESTION, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TIMES WHERE AN SRO WOULD NEED TO BE OUT OR SOMETHING, AND SO THE DISTRICT HAS A CAMPUS PATROL THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE HIRE OFF DUTY OFFICERS TO VISIT CAMPUSES.

SOMETIMES WE'LL PLACE THOSE OFFICERS IN AND IN PLACE TEMPORARILY.

I THINK IF THERE IS A LONG TERM TOP ABSENCE, WE'LL WORK WITH THE CITY AND THEY GENERALLY WILL HELP US.

WELL, ALWAYS IN MY EXPERIENCE, HAVE HELPED US FILL THE POSITIONS AND THINGS.

BUT YOU KNOW, OUR OFFICERS HAVE QUITE A BIT OF TRAINING AND THINGS, AND SO WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE DO WORK THROUGH THOSE THINGS.

I THINK WELL IN THAT THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, THOUGH.

WHEN I ALSO JUST WANT TO TAKE ONE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE CITY BECAUSE THE CITY DOES HELP FUND OUR SRO PROGRAM, AND SO WITH THE FUNDING ISSUES, WE OBVIOUSLY FACE THE ASSISTANCE THEY PROVIDE US TO KEEP OUR STUDENTS SAFE AND OUR CAMPUSES SAFE SHOULD NOT BE UNDERSTATED. WE ARE EXTREMELY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY SHOULD KNOW THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY FUNDS COME TOWARDS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND HELP US IN A BIG WAY.

I'LL JUST CHIME IN, CODY.

YOU KNOW, TALKING TO OTHER SUPERINTENDENTS, NOT EVERYONE ENJOYS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THIS, THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY THAT PLANO ISD ENJOYS.

AND SO THAT IS NOT TO BE UNDERESTIMATED IN ANY WAY.

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AND I'LL SAY THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WORKING COLLABORATIVELY TO ENSURE THAT THE THE SELECTION PROCESS FOR THE SROS IS HANDLED VERY CAREFULLY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO PUT PUT THEM IN A SCHOOL WITH CHILDREN.

AND SO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR AND OUR SAFETY AND SECURITY DEPARTMENT REALLY TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY.

AND IT IS IT IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED, JUST JUST LIKE THE EFFORT WE PUT INTO HIRING THE RIGHT TEACHER IN THE CLASSROOM.

I FEEL LIKE WE PUT THE SAME EMPHASIS ON HIRING THE RIGHT SRO FOR A SCHOOL BUILDING, AND SO WE TRULY APPRECIATE THAT.

AGAIN, IT'S A GOLD STANDARD, AND IT IS NOT FOUND EVERYWHERE, SO WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.

WELL, THAT MIGHT BE A PERFECT SEGUE TO OUR LAST ITEM, BUT I'LL JUST END ON THE SRO FRONT BY SAYING THAT WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY WITH PLANO PD AND AND BRINGING THEM IN TO HELP WITH S€ ISSUES WITH SECURITY AT BOARD MEETINGS AND EVEN WITH LOVE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN ONE OF YOUR OFFICERS AND ONE OF OUR FORMER CABINET MEMBERS WHO WOULD KILL ME IF SHE KNEW I WAS SAYING THIS OUT LOUD.

[3.4. Next Steps for Interagency Collaboration]

AND THAT WAS POINT ONE WAS, YOU KNOW, OUR CABINET LEVEL FOLKS OVER HERE AND YOU ALL STAFF THE COMMUNICATION THAT THAT MARK MENTIONED THAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER ON ON THESE ISSUES, I THINK IS IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN IMPORTANT COLLABORATIVE COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND TO SEE THAT CONTINUE FORWARD, I THINK, IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND BENEFITS BOTH OF US.

UM, THE SECOND THING IS KEEPING WILL PLEDGE TO KEEP YOU ALL INFORMED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING RELATIVE TO THE RECAPTURE DISCUSSIONS WE'RE HAVING.

WHO ARE THE CITIES THAT ARE AFFECTED SO THAT TO THE EXTENT YOU ALL HAVE FRIENDS ON OTHER COUNCILS AND OTHER MEMBERSHIPS THAT YOU CAN REACH OUT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS, BUT YOU HAVE A REAL PROBLEM.

AND SO THE MORE FOLKS WE CAN GET ON OUR SIDE OF THE ON OUR TEAM, THE BETTER OFF WE ARE.

AND THAT THAT'S REALLY ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE STARTING THE NEXT OUR LEGISLATIVE PLANNING NOW SO THAT WE CAN START BUILDING OUR TEAM UP FOR TWO YEARS.

AND THEN THE LAST THING THAT I THOUGHT OF, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL AT ALL FOR Y'ALL, BUT IN SARA PROBABLY KILL ME FOR EVEN MENTIONING THIS.

BUT YOU KNOW, AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AGING NEIGHBORHOODS AND OUR POPULATIONS GOING DOWN, WOULD IT HELP Y'ALL AT ALL TO SEE A MAP? KIND OF A HOT SPOT MAP OF PISD TO SHOW YOU THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE MAYBE LOSING POPULATION YEAR OVER YEAR, AND THAT MIGHT HELP YOU ALL IN YOUR OVERALL PLANNING.

ALL RIGHT, SO THAT'S IT, THAT'S WHAT I GOT, SO I'LL SHUT UP NOW AND LET EVERYBODY ELSE CHIME IN. SARA DIDN'T KILL YOU.

THAT'S THEY'LL COME AFTER. MANY ITEMS. OH, YEAH. JUST A COUPLE OF COUNCILMAN RECORD, ALI.

GO AHEAD, RICK. YOU KNOW, JUST PULL OVER TOWARD YOU.

THERE. OK, THERE WE GO.

SORRY, TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.

NO, JUST A QUICK ITEM FOLLOWING UP ON THE THIRD ITEM THAT PRESIDENT STOLLE MENTIONED, I THINK THE HOT SPOT MAP WILL BE VERY HELPFUL.

AND AS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PROBABLY KNOWS, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING A NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR LAND USE.

AND I THINK GETTING THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS FEEDBACK ON THAT FROM, YOU KNOW, THE POINT OF VIEW OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND WHERE WHERE SCHOOLS ARE AT OR UNDER CAPACITY, WHERE SCHOOLS ARE OVERCAPACITY AND WHERE, WHERE YOU KNOW WHERE IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE MORE STUDENTS AND WHERE SCHOOLS CAN'T NECESSARILY TAKE THAT.

I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE LETTER ABOUT PROGRAM CAPACITY AND FUNCTIONAL CAPACITY THAT WE GET ANY TIME THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL ZONING CASE.

SO MAYBE LOOKING AT THAT, NOT JUST ON AN AD HOC ZONING CASE BY ZONING CASE BASIS, BUT YOU KNOW, MORE COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

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I KNOW THAT PERIODICALLY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS PROBABLY IN COLLECTIVE MEETINGS ACROSS THE STATE, AND THEY'RE EXCHANGING INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S WHAT'S TAKING PLACE IN EDUCATION. SIMULTANEOUSLY, A LOT OF US HAVE POSITIONS WITH THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL, THE DALLAS REGIONAL MOBILITY COALITION, WITH STATE AGENCIES, WITH STATE ADVOCACY GROUPS, WITH NATIONAL ADVOCACY GROUPS WHERE WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS AS TO WHAT'S TAKING PLACE ON INFRASTRUCTURE.

DISCUSSIONS OF WHAT'S TAKING PLACE WITHIN THE POPULATION IN GENERAL.

AND I THINK WITH THE THE CABINET COMMUNICATION THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, IT'S IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA TO HELP EXCHANGE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION FOR WHICH YOU MAY NOT BE PARTICIPATING IN THE MEETINGS THAT DEAL WITH REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION, BUT IT IMPACTS YOU.

AND SIMULTANEOUSLY, THERE MAY BE MEETINGS THAT YOU'RE IN.

THAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU, BUT IT MAY IMPACT THE CITY AS WELL.

SO I THINK AN EXCHANGE OF THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION AND BEING TO IDENTIFY IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT. WELL, OH, DID YOU SAY SOMETHING? I HAVE SOMETHING, BUT YOU CAN GO FIRST.

I'M SORRY. WELL, WE DO THIS ON THE BOARD DYAS ALL THE TIME.

I APOLOGIZE. I WAS THINKING ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ALL.

THINKING INFORMING THE COMMUNITY ABOUT RECAPTURE AND AND THE TAXES AND UNDERSTANDING THEIR PROPERTY TAXES SO THAT YOU DON'T GET THE PHONE CALLS RIGHT.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE TRIED TO DO IN 2017 WAS THIS THING CALLED TAXSPARENCY, AND WE WERE TRYING TO GET ON YOUR TAX NOTICE.

THE HISTORY OF RECAPTURE AND WHERE IT GOES, HOW MUCH STAYS.

IN THE DISTRICT AND HOW MUCH GOES BACK TO THE STATE AND WE CANNOT GET THAT DONE, AND SO, YOU KNOW, EVERY EVERY TIME WE GO TO THE LEGISLATURE, IT GETS SHUT DOWN.

BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, I THINK IT WOULD BE IDEAL IF IF WE'RE DOING NOT ROADSHOWS, BUT YOU KNOW, JUST COMMUNITY TALKS ABOUT VARIOUS SCHOOL FINANCE AND CITY, I THINK WE COULD DO IT TOGETHER AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION.

I KNOW WHERE'S LESLIE? SHE'S BACK THERE. SHE PUTS TOGETHER AMAZING, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT FOR US TO GO TALK TO OUR MEMBERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK IT'S KIND OF A NEAT IDEA IF PERHAPS A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER AND A COUNCILMAN WERE TO TALK. NOW I DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE 10 CITIES THAT ARE REPRESENTED IN PISD, BUT I THINK IT'S STILL A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE A COMMON VOICE WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

SO MAYBE WE THINK ABOUT THAT IN SOME WAY.

SO I HAD THREE THINGS ON MY LIST.

UH, I KNOW THAT TWO BIG ISSUES IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVEN'T TACKLED YET, THAT WE PROBABLY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS MORE ARE HOMELESSNESS AND MENTAL HEALTH.

AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT HOMELESSNESS ON MONDAY, CORRECT? AND I KNOW THAT WHEN I THINK ABOUT SCHOOLS, I THINK ABOUT A PLACE THAT PEOPLE TRUST, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES Y'ALL ARE THE FIRST PLACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE ISSUES ARE ADDRESSED. AND SO I JUST THINK THESE ARE TWO ISSUES THAT WE CAN PROBABLY WORK WELL TOGETHER ON. AND THEN THE THIRD ONE WAS JUST OUR LISTENING SESSIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HOSTING AS A CITY BECAUSE PEOPLE TRUST YOU AND BECAUSE I KNOW THAT LOTS OF TIMES PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WILL LISTEN TO THINGS THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO SAY.

I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD POTENTIALLY LIKE WHEN WE HAVE THE PEANUT BUTTER DRIVE AND JUST ALL THOSE THINGS.

IF WE COULD HAVE YOU ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME TO OUR LISTENING SESSIONS SO THAT WE GET A DIVERSE GROUP OF VOICES AND WE HEAR FROM ALL OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND I'LL JUST SAY THAT OUR LIAISON POSITIONS IN PLANO ISD PROVIDES US A VERY GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR WHAT WE TRY TO HAVE AS QUARTERLY MEETINGS, MOSTLY ON ZOOM THESE DAYS, HOPEFULLY NOT SO MUCH IN THE FUTURE.

AND WE'VE HAD GREAT MEETINGS WITH SOME OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES.

COUNCILMAN [INAUDIBLE] FOR SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH, WE CHANGED THAT FOR THIS YEAR, SO IT'S DAVID AND CODY AND MYSELF ARE YOUR LIAISON.

SO JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, NANCY WASN'T INTERESTED THIS YEAR.

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WE LOVE YOU. WELL, THESE THESE ARE GREAT TOPICS THAT WE COULD DEFINITELY WORK WELL TOGETHER. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF STAFF WILL GET TOGETHER AND LOOK AND SEE HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES, ALL OF WHICH ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THIS COMMUNITY, I THINK WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO BOTH THE DISTRICT AND THE CITY.

WE'RE HAPPY TO GO TO WORK.

WELL, AS WE AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH COVID AND HOPEFULLY GET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF COVID ONE DAY, WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING MORE MEETINGS LIKE THIS WITH YOU ALL AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL MAKING YOURSELVES AVAILABLE IF THESE ARE IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ALIGNED AND FULLY INFORMED ON WHAT.

THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE FACING, SO ANYTHING ELSE ON THE PISD SIDE? NOW, JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TO THE STOCKWELL CENTER AND AND COMING ALONGSIDE PLANO ISD. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND LOOK FORWARD TO MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THE SAME.

OK, JULIE, GET READY TO RACE ACROSS TOWN.

ALL RIGHT, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS OR ANY OBJECTIONS FROM THE BOARD, THE MEETING WILL BE ADJOURNED. THE TIME IS 7:29 P.M..

MARIA, I LOVE OUR AGING POPULATION.

IF THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS NOR ANY OBJECTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEETINGS' ADJOURN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.